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    <title type="text">Swap shop</title>
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      <title>Office Tension</title>
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      <published>2010-07-28T19:31:11Z</published>
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        <p>I have been working for a few months as the assistant to a Baptist pastor and have found him to be very controlling with information, seemingly withholding things I need to know. If I ask him point blank questions, he answers&#8212;but many times I don&#8217;t know the questions I should be asking! I can&#8217;t decide if he is passive-aggressive, a controller, or just thoughtless and clueless.</p>

<p>Today, I was about to mail postcards to the deacons reminding them of their meeting next week (which has been on the calendar for months) and the pastor happened to mention that he has moved the meeting to the next week. If he had not mentioned it, I would have given out wrong information and had people showing up at the wrong time. </p>

<p>This happens in some form or fashion every week, just under different circumstances. He seems very close-mouthed about things and is not forthcoming with details I need to know. I try to be proactive and keep things running smoothly, but I get blindsided fairly frequently with things that he knows about but does not bother to tell me.</p>

<p>Otherwise, he is pleasant and treats me fairly, but this has me stumped. I am not sure if I should discuss with him or with the personnel committee?</p>
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      <title>Preacher Confessions of Struggle</title>
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      <published>2010-04-26T01:06:56Z</published>
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        <p>We have had one of our ministers for about a year and a half now and we have noticed a regular pattern of argumentation and defensiveness with his elders to the point that we are not quick to invite the ministers into our meetings.&nbsp; Most every idea that he has brought to us has been adopted by us for implementation, however, even the small changes are met with resistance.&nbsp; Now this minister has confessed that he suffers from severe depression and brought his wife in also when he told us.&nbsp; Of course this caught us by surprise.&nbsp; He has apparently struggled with this for many years and only a lot of encouragement helps him get through each week. One slightly negative comment, one criticism, one correction with approaches will send him into a tailspin. This man is a five talented man, very disciplined and organized, and very much a hard charger in his spirit.&nbsp; Now we feel we are walking on eggshells if we object, tweak an idea, or miss affirming him.&nbsp; This came out of the blue. We do not know what is best as shepherds. We wish he had shared this with us during the interview process.&nbsp; We feel held hostage by him. He is a good teacher and preacher.&nbsp; We are tired of always worrying what argument is next and what opportunity to build him up that we missed.&nbsp; It is not healthy.&nbsp; Please advise.</p>
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      <title>Books on Vision</title>
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      <published>2009-04-12T09:19:32Z</published>
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      <author><name>Marvin</name></author>
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        <p>What is your favorite book on vision, purpose, mission, etc. for congregations (not individuals). And does anyone know one that gives an overview of various approaches to the issue?</p>
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      <title>Article in 21st Century Christian Magazine</title>
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      <published>2010-04-01T10:33:30Z</published>
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        <p>An article on growing churches by Lynn Anderson mentioned a German study that define well grounded methods for growing churches.&nbsp; I was wondering if that study has been published and if so, where?</p>
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      <title>Gone!&amp;nbsp; done, tired,&amp;nbsp; nothing there.</title>
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      <published>2009-09-03T16:46:29Z</published>
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      <author><name>Chuck</name></author>
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        <p>I am a pastor affiliated with a far to the right Conservative denomination. Been preaching for 28 years. I enjoy Rick Warren, Bill Hybles and now Lynn Anderson.(i get criticised from my peers) I just finished the two books&#8230;&#8220;They Smell Like Sheep&#8221;. Amazingly insightful! but, I&#8217;ve been through some transitional issues with a traditional church, aim at a halt, I&#8217;m tired, i had to take on a full-time job(chaplain). I question my own doctrine, i have thoughts of leaving the denomination(but i love the people in my church) i have not the zeal or ambition to continue. or to mentor&#8230;small groups are not flourishing, i question my leadership abilities. I&#8217;m pretty much done&#8230;.going through the motions&#8230;.</p>
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      <title>Team Building based on Gifts</title>
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      <published>2009-09-29T22:41:27Z</published>
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        <p>Carlus Gupton&#8217;s article S.M.A.R.T is great.&nbsp; The emphasis on ministry by gifts is so needed. Lone ranger ministries falter and foster unhealthy leadership in my experience. </p>

<p>How can team building by gifts be integrated in all ministries of the church?</p>
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      <title>Creating a Movement</title>
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      <published>2009-08-04T07:02:34Z</published>
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        <p>In a congregationally based fellowship like Churches of Christ, sans any overarching, structural entity, the concepts of strategy and movement are not only unfamiliar, they are almost an psychological antithesis for us. So, what is a movement and how do movements get started?</p>

<p>George Hunter III in Spread the Power, suggests that movements result from 1) a strategic plan with 2) widespread buy-in. Simple, probably not comprehensive. Lots of points to object to, such as &#8220;God can start his own movements whenever he wants.&#8220; That is true, yet God seems to typically use point people to create his movements. The Exodus of Israel for example. I suppose God could have called a meeting of the elders of Israel and asked them to vote on the idea. Instead, he used Moses.</p>

<p>There is a third leg to movement creation: the tipping point. Malcolm Gladwell wrote The Tipping Point, focusing attention on how movements (or epidemics) begin and spread. His conclusion is that movement tipping points occur when there is a core of viral agents whose actions (intended or unintended) are focused in such a way that they have inordinate effect on everyone else around them. Agents are generators. A relatively small number of agents, whose energies work together, create a result far out of proportion to the number of agents. In otherwords, their effects multiply off of each other?</p>

<p>Here&#8217;s the question of movement creation: How do we, with our highly autonomous, congregational structure, get a sufficient number of agents focusing their energies together in order to reach the tipping point in the reproduction of 21st century churches?</p>
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      <title>Spiritual Directors</title>
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      <published>2009-04-06T11:08:18Z</published>
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        <p>It&#8217;s hard for ministers to find a spiritual director to help guide them.&nbsp; Have any of you used a spiritual director?&nbsp; What benefits have your received?&nbsp; How did you go about selecting one?&nbsp; What advice would you give?</p>
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      <title>Moving a church to small groups</title>
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        <p>Does anyone have any suggestions for moving an established church from a Sunday night meeting at the church building into a small groups church?&nbsp; Also, how long did it take, has it been successful and how did or do you measure success? <br />
Thanks,<br />
Rick Wood</p>
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      <title>Do the elders have a policy&#45;setting role&#63;</title>
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      <published>2009-05-22T18:05:18Z</published>
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        <p>This is not a question I gave a lot of thought to until I left professional ministry. For the past three years, I have worked in local government circles and have gained a much greater appreciation for the importance of policy setting. The first question we must ask is, &#8220;What is policy?&#8220; I understand policy to be a positive means to a desired outcome. Good policy helps organizations reach desired goals. A policy can be unique to one department or ministry, i.e., It is our policy that all adults who work in youth ministry submit to a background check. A policy can be broader in scope, i.e., It is our policy that ministers may not counsel a member of the opposite sex regardless of age in a closed door environment. </p>

<p>Churches without written policies are navigating potentially litigious waters. This is a difficult balancing act, because we want to trust and be trusted. At the same time, humanity has been, is, and will be unpredictable and prone to sinful behaviors. We have the choice then to set proactive policy, or reactive policy. Rarely is the latter a better choice.</p>

<p>Back to the question at hand, &#8220;Do the elders have a policy-setting role?&#8220; I prefer to think of it as a, &#8220;policy approving role.&#8220; I would prefer elders spend time with members versus manuals. Have staff members turn to churches who have executive ministers on staff. Ask for a copy of their policies and procedures. Personalize it to your context. Ask Human Resource, Risk Manager, and Legal Professionals in your congregation to share their knowledge of proper pattern and practice and good policy setting methodologies. If your church is ever sued, the, &#8220;board of directors&#8221; is likely to be liable in some way. The more proactive policies you have in place - the less likely you are to lose that lawsuit. That does not make the person who breaks the policy immune from punitive damages. Good policy, however, can help clarify expectations often leading to a deeper sense of commitment. </p>

<p>I will stop here and provide an opportunity for others to respond. We are developing resources to help churches develop good policy. I will respond with additional information as it becomes available.</p>
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